Some Statements on Consensual Sexuality Between Adults and Children, "Pedophilia," and Related Questions. (edited by the AG-Pdo-BVH)


Michael C. Baurmann (Ph.D., Dipl.-Psych., Consultant to the Federal Police Bureau (BKA)): "Sexuality, Violence, and the Consequences for the Victim: Results from a Long-Term, Cross-Sectional Study of Reported Sexual Contacts," Wiesbaden, 1985, Vol. 15 of the BKA Research Series. The jumping-off point for this long-term, victimological study is a four-year poll of virtually all persons known to have become sexual victims in Lower Saxony between 1969 and 1973.

In Baurmann's study, cases in which compulsion or the exploitation of relationships of dependency played no role whatsoever, and cases in which the children themselves wanted the sexual acts with the teenagers or adults (were conservatively estimated as having) constituted more than half of all of the accusations falling under 176 StGB [homosexual acts] which he examined. Here, harm to victims occurred only "quite rarely." Specifically concerning the boys who became victims (all under 13 years old), Baurmann was able to discern only consensual or "relatively harmless sexual contacts"; in none of the cases did he find evidence of primary harm, [that is, harm caused by the sex itself]. When actual victimization does occur here, it does so only secondarily, via over-dramatization, police actions, prosecution, and conviction.

"In the 48.2% of cases [sexual offenses] in which the declared victim had not been harmed, it was predominantly a matter of relatively superficial and/or consensual sexual acts. Up until now, many experts have assumed that there are scarcely any sexual victims who were not harmed. Some new thinking is in order here. Adults who assume that not only violent, but also nonviolent, sexual contacts would be fundamentally harmful to children, must reckon with the fact that many children become victims only because adults expect it of them. Many adults have so internalized the simplistic horror stories about consequences that they can't even imagine reacting in an objective manner when it comes to their own children. Other adults have so many sexual problems themselves that they are simply incapable of responding in an unbiased fashion. Conditioned by such expectations, many adults then behave in such a way that the child actually does become a victim." (pg. 22 of the summarized results, Wiesbaden 1985).


Gisela Bleibtreu - Ehrenberg (Ph.D., ethno-sociologist, science journalist): "The Pedophilic Impulse: How A Young Person Learns About Sexuality," in: Love, Sexuality, and Social Myths, pg. 175 ff., Weinheim 1985.


"The present ethno-sociological paper endeavors to describe the sexual impulse of the adults who are drawn to close physical/emotional contacts with prepubertal children, and in which this uncertain impulse is an integral aspect of the overall personality. It should be said from the very start that contacts of this type are basically nonviolent. (When this is not the case, what we then have is not pedophilia, but rather, what is to be regarded as a criminal offense.)"


Ernest Borneman (Ph.D., psychologist, pedologist, distinguished professor at the Univ. of Salzburg): "The Abuse of Abuse: Children and Their Helpers." In: Handout of the Munich Association for Support and Family Law (ISUV/-VDU), distributed at a lecture given on 5/l5/92, pp. 3-7.


"The concept of sexual violence is fuzzy, when one, by definition, characterizes as an assault not only those sexual relations between children and adults which involve physical or psychological coercion, but also, in addition to that, all other such relations. . . My study group of sexual pedologists by no means. . .pleads for the right of adults to engage in sexual intercourse with children, but rather, for the right of children to engage in sexual intercourse with adults."


Martin Dannecker (Ph.D., psychologist, lecturer at the Univ. of Frankfurt, Dept. of Sex Research): The Drama of Sexuality, Frankfurt l987.


"The criminal sanctioning [of pedosexuality] produces, in addition to the much-discussed secondary harm via questioning and legal proceedings, a climate in which the already precarious dimensions of pedosexual relationships are exacerbated; penalization even more intensely compels pedophiles to turn their child partners into dependent coconspirators, which is something that social discrimination would have done all on its own anyway. Penalization also exacerbates the adult's feelings of guilt, which the child him/herself then identifies."

Particularly interesting in Danecker's book is an overview of sexual science experts' statements regarding the effects of pedosexual contacts on children, as well as l76 StGB, on the occasion of a hearing by the 1970 Special Committee on Criminal Law Reform. The reworking of l76 StGB, which did not make any distinctions in terms of consensuality was, even at the time, already quite controversial. pg. 75 ff.: 3

"The assumption of ipso facto developmental damage through the premature reception of heterosexual contacts cannot be said to be scientifically based." (Schoenfelder)

"Therefore, what has been able to be established is that the genesis or, non-emergence of long-lasting harm from nonviolent sexual offenses against children is scarcely a function of the sexual offense itself, but rather, exclusively of the reactions of caregivers as well as the environment." (Reinhart Lempp, Prof. of Child Psychiatry, Univ. of Tubingen).

"All of the studies indicate that the number of children who suffer long-term damage from the event itself and I am talking here about incidents in which heavy force was not employed is exceptionally small, if any harm is detectable at all." (Hallermann; for similar views, see Groffmann, Schorsch, Nau)


Alfred Kinsey (Ph.D., distinguished professor at the University of Indiana, sex researcher):

"Orgasm in Young Boys," and, "Orgasm in Young Gir1s" (in: H. Kentler, Texts on Socio-Sexuality, Opladen 1973, pg. 63 ff.).


"Orgasm has been observed in boys of every age-stage between five months and puberty. . . Orgasm in a small child or other young male individual corresponds except for the absence of ejaculation completely with orgasm in older adults in some astonishing ways. . . An angry little child, once stimulation begins, becomes quiet, turns away from other activities, begins rhythmic penis-thrusting, tenses his muscles as the orgasm approaches, and moreover initiates convulsive movement. These findings regarding the sexual activities of young male individuals lend considerable support to Freud's views of sexuality as one. . . of chi1dhood's earliest existing components. The Freudian notion of a pregenital stage of more generalized erotic response, which practices more specific genital activity, is, however, not confirmed. Masturbation is a basically normal and quite frequent phenomenon in many children, both girls and boys. . . That is why it is, not seldom, the cause of orgasm in little girls as well as boys."


Rudiger Lautmann (J.D., Ph.D., professor of law and sociology, Univ. of Bremen): "Sex Offenses: Criminal Acts Without a Victim?," ZRP 1980, Issue 2, pg. 44 ff.


"The 1973 modernization of the sexual criminal law had indeed brought the crimino-political discussion to a halt; however, the dubious nature of these regulations was left untouched. Many forms of prostitution, pornography, exhibitionism, and pedophilia remain (inasmuch as they are free of violence and coercion) penalized as morally disfavored, without having addressed the empirical questions regarding harm and victims."

And in "Pedos/Homos/Lesbos Something Is Crazy Here": "When pedosexuals get together in groups, in order to share things with one another and to safeguard their interests e.g., protection against an extraordinarily ham-handed criminal law this is clearly a social and socio-political step forward."


Theo Sandfort (Ph.D., Univ. of Utrecht): From Study at the University of Utrecht into Sex in Pedophilic Relationships, Braunschweig, 1986, pg. 73ff:


"In summary, it held true for all of the boys studied here (10-16 year-olds), that the sexual contacts themselves were positive experiences. . . Potential detrimental effects are secondary; their causes are to be sought out, first and foremost, in the attitude of the environment vis--vis the contacts."

"Legal proscriptions must not be permitted to impede young people's right to sexual self-determination, also falling under which is the right to agree to or reject a sexual overture from an older person."


Gunter Schmidt (M.D., professor at the Univ. of Hamburg, Dept. of Sex Research): Homosexual Pedophilia, Konkret, 1989:


"For many sexual scientists and activists, the gay movement begins with the "respectable" homosexual; i.e., where the state-established, so-called protection age [age of consent] lies. But these age limits are far too high; they are more likely to protect young people from their own sexuality than from sexual exploitation." "One must do justice to the wider variety of pedophilic relationships. Therefore, the universal threat of punishment for pedophilic acts cannot be called civilized; it is wrong, it persecutes minorities, and it needs to be done away with."


Eberhard Schorsch (M.D., distinguished professor at the Institute for Sex Research, psychiatrist at the Univ. Clinic Hamburg): Criminology Monthly 1989, pg. l4l ff.:


"It is not sensible to use the crude implement of the criminal law to deal with the phenomenon of pedosexuality; it only leaves behind splinters and rubble on all sides."


Gay Jurists: Gays and the Law: A Legal Guide for Homosexual Persons, Bamburg, 1992, esp. chaps. 26 (The Sexual Criminal Law) and 42 (Pedophilia).


"We are of the opinion that 176 StGB (Sexual Abuse of Children) should be repealed. Certainly, that would then require that 174 par. 1 No. 1 and 3 StGB (Sexual Abuse of Dependents) be amended by the corresponding 176 par. 2 provision (Influencing a Child to Engage in Sexual Acts Upon or in the Presence of a Third Person)."


Tobias (14 yrs. old) in "Reini H. Riedese1: I Will Not Hide. . ." BVH Journal , Vol. 4: 1, Cologne, February 1990, pp. 6-8:


"This is also such nonsense. Of course I don't actually want to be protected; then, of course, I would be truly stupid. Of course, this isn't focused on my development; in reality, it's focused on my cock and locking it away for as long as possible. No, I'm not going to allow the state to dictate when I am allowed to have sex. This, of course, is truly perverted and the man, if he's found out, still has to go in the clink. Truly perverted!"